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{{distinguish|Cartesian Holdings|Coroseia}}'''Cortesia Del Mar''', officially '''The Republic of Cortesia Del Mar''' (often shortened to '''Cortesia''' or '''CDM'''), is a constitutional republic in the ++ (southeastern) quadrant of the map. Currently run by a "transitionary oligarchy"<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/kp8lji/cortesia_del_mar_claims_the_entranan_continent/ghvkd2y?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref>, the nation is founded on "the values of democracy, equality, humanity, justice, liberty, responsibility, secularity, and the rule of law"<ref>This will link to the Cortesian Constitution when it is complete.</ref>, and is actively expanding northwards across its territory from its interim capital and oldest city of [[New Sol]]. Its only land border is with [[Monterrey]] to the west, though it is politically close to [[Caledonia]] as a result of unique circumstances surrounding its continent. Though the nation is young, it is remarkably culturally concrete, as a result of having a long preexisting history.{{Infobox civilization
{{distinguish|Cartesian Holdings|Coroseia}}'''Cortesia Del Mar''', officially '''The Republic of Cortesia Del Mar''' (often shortened to '''Cortesia''' or '''CDM'''), was a nation in the [[+,+]] (southeastern) quadrant of [[CivClassic 2.0]]. Run for its entire twelve-month existence on the server by a "transitionary oligarchy"<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/kp8lji/cortesia_del_mar_claims_the_entranan_continent/ghvkd2y?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3</ref>, the nation was founded on "the values of democracy, equality, humanity, justice, liberty, responsibility, secularity, and the rule of law"<ref>This will link to the Cortesian Constitution when it is complete.</ref>, as it doggedly pursued the development of its intricate Constitution. Its interim capital was the city of [[New Sol]], so named because its intended national capital of [[Ventura]] was not realized in this time. Its only land border was with [[Monterrey]] to the west. Cortesia was a member of the [[CES]] and the [[Korell Alliance]]. Cortesia had a long pre-[[CivClassic]] history prior to its establishment on the server, which greatly shaped its nature and politics; though it continued to exist as an independent community afterwards, Cortesia Del Mar ceased to exist on [[CivClassic 2.0|CivClassic]] on December 8, 2021, as a result of the [https://www.reddit.com/comments/rc370p EOTW announcement].{{Infobox civilization
| above = The Republic of Cortesia Del Mar
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| image = CDM FlagP.png
| image = CDM FlagP.png
| caption = Peacetime Flag of Cortesia Del Mar
| caption = Peacetime Flag of Cortesia Del Mar
| location = [https://ccmap.github.io/#c=9007,4651,r1636 Entranan Continent]
| location = [https://ccmap.github.io/#c=9007,4651,r1636 Eastern Phoenix]
| demonym = Cortesian
| demonym = Cortesian
| alliance = {{flag|CES}}
| alliance = {{flag|CES}}
| capital_city = [[New Sol]]
| capital_city = [[New Sol]]
| government_type = Transitionary Oligrachy
| government_type = Transitionary Oligrachy
| governing_document = [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/561592328243118086/795433402017775626/unknown.png Constitution]
| governing_document = [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793579411349176320/900444090351628368/Provisional_Constitution.pdf Provisional Constitution] (intended to be a temporary measure)
| position_title1 = President
| position_title1 = President
| position_name1 = [[IceCarim]]
| position_name1 = [[IceCarim]]
| position_title2 = Vice President
| position_title2 = Vice President
| position_name2 = [[yodabird19]]
| position_name2 = [[yodabird19]]
| position_title3 = Minister of Economic Affairs
| position_title3 = Secretariat Member
| position_name3 = [[BrickWall_Gaming]]
| position_name3 = [[Vedd]]
| position_title4 = Minister of Interior
| position_title4 = Secretariat Member
| position_name4 = [[EngineeringBean]]
| position_name4 = [[EngineeringBean]]
| foundation_date = [https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/kp8lji/cortesia_del_mar_claims_the_entranan_continent/ 2 January 2021]
| foundation_date = [https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/kp8lji/cortesia_del_mar_claims_the_entranan_continent/ 2 January 2021]
| label1 = Land area
| label1 = Land area
| data1 = 2.922km²
| data1 = 4.231km²
| discord = [https://discord.gg/xnRhTua9Hu xnRhTua9Hu]
| discord = [https://discord.gg/xnRhTua9Hu xnRhTua9Hu]
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===CivClassic History===
===CivClassic History===
====December-January 2020-2021====
Cortesia's location and membership on CivClassic are the result of an extraordinary coincidence, as when Cortesia agreed to move to Classics, it encountered former StarLegacy friend EngineeringBean already settled in the city-state of New Sol. With Bean's permission, Cortesians began to operate out of New Sol from December 21st, 2020, building up the future first Cortesian city and connecting it via rail to the [[Entranan Transcontinental Express]] and the nearby town of [[Monterrey|Barcelona]].
Cortesia's location and membership on CivClassic are the result of an extraordinary coincidence, as when Cortesia agreed to move to Classics, it encountered former StarLegacy friend EngineeringBean already settled in the city-state of New Sol. With Bean's permission, Cortesians began to operate out of New Sol from December 21st, 2020, building up the future first Cortesian city and connecting it via rail to the [[Entranan Transcontinental Express]] and the nearby town of [[Monterrey|Barcelona]].
Cortesia was founded with a "transitionary oligarchy" on January 2nd, 2021. Caledonia, former stewards of the Entranan vicinity, assented to the claim. It established the doomed capital of [[Ventura]] on January 23rd, and Cortesia accepted an invitation to the [[DUMP]] alliance on January 25th (which would be realized on the 31st), where it would stay through May 26th.

====February 2021====
Cortesia was founded with a "transitionary oligarchy" and exclusion zones around historic cities on the so-called Entranan Continent on January 2nd, 2021. Caledonia, former stewards of the Entranan vicinity, assented to the claim. With its capital, Ventura, having been founded on January 23rd, Cortesia accepted an invitation to the [[DUMP]] alliance on January 25th, which would be realized on the 31st, getting its diplomatic foot in the proverbial door.
After the [[Lambat|Free State of Lambat's]] brief membership in DUMP and eventual dissolution, its territory was temporarily ceded to Cortesia for protection on February 2nd, 2021.<ref>Address from the Lambat Government-in-Exile : civclassics (reddit.com)</ref> <ref>Formal Dissolution of Lambat : civclassics (reddit.com)</ref> The territory was returned to the Republic of Lambat, FSL's successor state, on February 13th.<ref>Declaring the formation of the Republic of Lambat (+ Q&A) : civclassics (reddit.com)</ref>.

From February 13 to February 20, Cortesian Vice President [[yodabird19]] was pearled by [[Nyasaland]], an [https://www.reddit.com/comments/lkfh34 international crisis] which ultimately contributed to and coincided with the [[Collapse of Eddie Murphy]], an event which eviscerated the [[DUMP]] and reduced Cortesian activity for the following months.
After the [[Lambat|Free State of Lambat's]] brief membership in DUMP and eventual dissolution, its territory was temporarily ceded to Cortesia for protection on February 2nd, 2021.<ref>Address from the Lambat Government-in-Exile : civclassics (reddit.com)</ref> <ref>Formal Dissolution of Lambat : civclassics (reddit.com)</ref> The territory was returned to the Republic of Lambat, FSL's successor state, on February 13th.<ref>Declaring the formation of the Republic of Lambat (+ Q&A) : civclassics (reddit.com)</ref>
====May-June 2021====
Throughout much of May, Cortesia Del Mar, [[Caledonia]], and a growing group of other players and nations hashed out the [[Conference of Eastern States]], an eastern regional alliance in which Cortesia would remain through to [[Jargon:EOTW|EOTW]]. The alliance's formation was rushed by [[yodabird19]]'s pearling by [[Columbia]] on May 27 over a [https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/nmoizx/columbia_has_pearled_yodabird19_and_heres_why/ conspiracy theory that yodabird19 was colluding to obtain NATO loot].
====June-October 2021====
The middle of 2021 saw Cortesian activity revive dramatically, as both projects within and without the [[CES]] came to fruition over this period. [[yodabird19]] created [[yodabot]], a snitch bot which served over a dozen nations. [[New Sol]] grew rapidly, Cortesia constructed iceroads for easy access to its allies, and [https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/rdnfwa/the_big_red_bridge_monterrey_and_cortesia_del_mar/ the 'Big Red Bridge'] was completed. The [[AF-CES]] partnership was established on August 21, which further helped to extend Cortesia's diplomatic sphere.
This period also saw Cortesia diplomatically (and in some cases, militarily) involved in a number of international incidents and events, such as the [https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/p7pxcp/let_us_return/ Adinan controversy], the [[Ohio Massacre]], and the [[Asahigaokan Missile Crisis]].
====October-December 2021====
Late 2021 began with the ratification of the [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793579411349176320/900444090351628368/Provisional_Constitution.pdf Provisional Constitution], which aimed to grant Cortesia Del Mar a small bureaucracy and through it moderate political legitimacy, while leaving Cortesia the transitional oligarchy that it needed to complete its three-years-in-the-making Constitution. This began a period of active homeland development in Cortesia Del Mar, which saw the redevelopment of Entrana city, the rapid expansion (mostly vertically) of [[New Sol]], and the beginnings of the [[SARS]] standard overtaking the [[KANI]] in the Cortesian neighborhood.
[[CivClassic 2.0|CivClassic]]'s [[Jargon#EOTW|EOTW]] was [https://www.reddit.com/comments/rc370p announced on December 8, 2021], immediately ending Cortesian development on [[CivClassic 2.0|CivClassic]], and catapulting Cortesia Del Mar into its Fourth Interim Period.


==Geography==
==Geography==
Cortesia Del Mar's mainland was diverse in shape and biome, though mostly dominated by forests and plains. The center of its claims had a large, circular lake named [[Lake Turtle]], surrounded by wide, flat beaches, on which the attempted city of [[Ventura]] was established for some months. Elevation in this land varied wildly, with some areas, especially the southwest of the claims, having flat, arable land, while others, such as the southeast and north, were mountainous or otherwise elevated.
Cortesia also claimed a number of nearby islands, including Thaegon, which was flat and heavily farmed, a nearby nether island, a small mushroom island, and several surrounding islands of varied usefulness.


===Claim===
===Claim===
[[File:Cortesia claim artsy.png|thumb|This image is significantly out of date.]]
[[File:Cortesia claim final.png|The full claims of Cortesia Del Mar in their final state]]
Cortesia Del Mar's main claim stretches north to south across its subcontinent. Stretching ~2900 blocks from its northernmost to its southernmost point, Cortesian territory incorporates a large mountainous forest, a small area of plans, another of savannah, and two islands to its south: one grassy, and one nether. It is comparable in size to its neighbor, Monterrey. <br>
The nation also claims a mushroom island near the world border.

=== Protected History===
As stated in [https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/kp8lji/cortesia_del_mar_claims_the_entranan_continent/ghvkd2y?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 its claim post], "Cortesia pledges to protect and preserve the remains of abandoned towns on the Entranan continent". The practical implementation of this protection of history is Cortesia's three established exclusion zones, one around each known ruin in its territory: [[Entranan Republic|Entrana City]], [[Knights Templar|Constantinople]], and Fort Liberty. Other historical artifacts, such as the Entranan footpath between these three cities, are also intended to be preserved to the maximum extent possible, though Cortesia does not foribid itself from making use of the land on which it sits, unlike the old cities in its midst. Cortesia's territory is also populated with claim markers from a "Lowland Hundred" civilization, which is presumed to have created the large floating farms which sit northwest of New Sol, but as this civilization [[Lowland Hundred|lacks extensive documentation]], its history is less able to be properly protected by the nation.


=== Cortesian Cities===
=== Cortesian Cities===
'''New Sol''' is Cortesia's oldest city and interim administrative and geographic capital.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/ka74sy/claim/</ref> It is located on [https://ccmap.github.io/#c=8779,5210,r205 a plains peninsula in the south of Cortesia's claim]. The city, with a futuristic, "stacked" style, is run by Mayor EngineeringBean.
'''New Sol''' was Cortesia's oldest city and interim administrative and geographic capital.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/ka74sy/claim/</ref> It was located in [https://ccmap.github.io/#c=8779,5210,r205 a plains peninsula in the south of Cortesia's claim]. The city, with a futuristic, "stacked" style, was run by Mayor EngineeringBean.


'''Ventura''' is a future Cortesian city. Under heavy construction, it is located around [https://ccmap.github.io/#c=8700,4650,r205 the southern shore of Cortesia's lake]. Its goal is to host the seat of Cortesian government and involve the styles of all Cortesian cities; it is still not yet a self-sufficient locale.
'''Ventura''' was an attempted Cortesian capital, planned until [[Jargon#EOTW|EOTW]] to be rebuilt better in the future. Perpetually under heavy construction, it wss located around [https://ccmap.github.io/#c=8700,4650,r205 the southern shore of Cortesia's Lake Turtle]. Its goal was to host the seat of Cortesian government and involve the styles of all Cortesian cities.


'''Entrana City''' was the former capital of the [[Entranan Republic]], which Cortesia pledged to preserve and protect. It was administrated by [[Brick_WallGaming]], and was little changed in Cortesia's twelve months owning it.
== Politics and Government==
The so-called Republic of Cortesia Del Mar is currently run by a "transitionary oligarchy" consisting of IceCarim, BrickWall_Gaming, and yodabird19. This trio, in tandem with the Republic's citizens, are working on the nation's intricate and corruption-proofed Constitution. This section will be expanded when Cortesia has a more complex government to speak of.<br>Cortesia Del Mar was part of the [[DUMP|Defense Union for Mutual Prosperity]] for the early half of 2021, later joining fellow member states [[Blackwell]] and [[Monterrey]] in voting to fold the alliance. DUMP met its end on [https://redd.it/nqkhhq 2 June 2021]. Soon thereafter, Cortesia helped found the [[CES|Conference of Eastern States]], of which it is currently a part.


'''Fort Liberty''' was another, smaller former Entranan city. Left almost entirely untouched for Cortesia's first nine months, the city played host to the future members of the [[Imperial Federation of Eddie Murphy]] for approximately three weeks while claim arrangements for the latter were made, in which time it was dramatically rebuilt by the Murphians in their style.
==Public Infrastructure==


'''Constantinople''' was the former capital of the [[Order of the Knights Templar]], and was situated in a grassy, square hole. Cortesia did not alter this city, though it did loot it.
===Rails===

Cortesia Del Mar has, as can be seen in its claim image (shown in the "Geography" section), established rails for its city of New Sol connecting to the [[Entranan Transcontinental Express]] and [[Monterrey|Barcelona]]. These are open to the public, and can be found at approximately where they appear in the aforementioned claim image.
== Politics and Government==
The so-called Republic of Cortesia Del Mar was run by a "transitionary oligarchy" consisting of [[IceCarim]], [[EngineeringBean]], [[Vedd]], and [[yodabird19]]. This group, in tandem with the Republic's citizens, worked incessantly on the nation's intricate and corruption-proofed Constitution.


==Culture==
==Culture==

Revision as of 17:53, 11 December 2021

Cortesia Del Mar, officially The Republic of Cortesia Del Mar (often shortened to Cortesia or CDM), was a nation in the +,+ (southeastern) quadrant of CivClassic 2.0. Run for its entire twelve-month existence on the server by a "transitionary oligarchy"[1], the nation was founded on "the values of democracy, equality, humanity, justice, liberty, responsibility, secularity, and the rule of law"[2], as it doggedly pursued the development of its intricate Constitution. Its interim capital was the city of New Sol, so named because its intended national capital of Ventura was not realized in this time. Its only land border was with Monterrey to the west. Cortesia was a member of the CES and the Korell Alliance. Cortesia had a long pre-CivClassic history prior to its establishment on the server, which greatly shaped its nature and politics; though it continued to exist as an independent community afterwards, Cortesia Del Mar ceased to exist on CivClassic on December 8, 2021, as a result of the EOTW announcement.

Cortesia Del Mar
Peacetime Flag of Cortesia Del Mar
General
LocationEastern Phoenix
DemonymCortesian
Alliance CES
Capital cityNew Sol
Government
GovernmentTransitionary Oligrachy
Governing documentProvisional Constitution (intended to be a temporary measure)
• President
IceCarim
• Vice President
yodabird19
• Secretariat Member
Vedd
• Secretariat Member
EngineeringBean
Formation
Foundation date2 January 2021
Links
DiscordxnRhTua9Hu

History

Pre-CivClassic History

Cortesian pre-CivClassic history is just under four years long, stretching back to an indeterminate date some time in early 2017. As such, the full Cortesian history is not presented here. A slowly-being-completed document roughly detailing its history (only through September 2020 as of January 2021) can be found here. It is important to note that this historical document itself has historical context, as the majority of it (through May 2020) was written while Cortesia (and, as such, the historian, yodabird19) were establishing themselves on their previous server of MCAtlas, with the main source being a different history (through December 2019) written at and after the end of Cortesia's presence on its previous previous server of StarLegacy (September-December 2019).

In lieu of a thorough history of the Republic, presented below is a short summary of major events relevant to Cortesian culture and politics today:

CivClassic History

December-January 2020-2021

Cortesia's location and membership on CivClassic are the result of an extraordinary coincidence, as when Cortesia agreed to move to Classics, it encountered former StarLegacy friend EngineeringBean already settled in the city-state of New Sol. With Bean's permission, Cortesians began to operate out of New Sol from December 21st, 2020, building up the future first Cortesian city and connecting it via rail to the Entranan Transcontinental Express and the nearby town of Barcelona. Cortesia was founded with a "transitionary oligarchy" on January 2nd, 2021. Caledonia, former stewards of the Entranan vicinity, assented to the claim. It established the doomed capital of Ventura on January 23rd, and Cortesia accepted an invitation to the DUMP alliance on January 25th (which would be realized on the 31st), where it would stay through May 26th.

February 2021

After the Free State of Lambat's brief membership in DUMP and eventual dissolution, its territory was temporarily ceded to Cortesia for protection on February 2nd, 2021.[4] [5] The territory was returned to the Republic of Lambat, FSL's successor state, on February 13th.[6]. From February 13 to February 20, Cortesian Vice President yodabird19 was pearled by Nyasaland, an international crisis which ultimately contributed to and coincided with the Collapse of Eddie Murphy, an event which eviscerated the DUMP and reduced Cortesian activity for the following months.

May-June 2021

Throughout much of May, Cortesia Del Mar, Caledonia, and a growing group of other players and nations hashed out the Conference of Eastern States, an eastern regional alliance in which Cortesia would remain through to EOTW. The alliance's formation was rushed by yodabird19's pearling by Columbia on May 27 over a conspiracy theory that yodabird19 was colluding to obtain NATO loot.

June-October 2021

The middle of 2021 saw Cortesian activity revive dramatically, as both projects within and without the CES came to fruition over this period. yodabird19 created yodabot, a snitch bot which served over a dozen nations. New Sol grew rapidly, Cortesia constructed iceroads for easy access to its allies, and the 'Big Red Bridge' was completed. The AF-CES partnership was established on August 21, which further helped to extend Cortesia's diplomatic sphere. This period also saw Cortesia diplomatically (and in some cases, militarily) involved in a number of international incidents and events, such as the Adinan controversy, the Ohio Massacre, and the Asahigaokan Missile Crisis.

October-December 2021

Late 2021 began with the ratification of the Provisional Constitution, which aimed to grant Cortesia Del Mar a small bureaucracy and through it moderate political legitimacy, while leaving Cortesia the transitional oligarchy that it needed to complete its three-years-in-the-making Constitution. This began a period of active homeland development in Cortesia Del Mar, which saw the redevelopment of Entrana city, the rapid expansion (mostly vertically) of New Sol, and the beginnings of the SARS standard overtaking the KANI in the Cortesian neighborhood. CivClassic's EOTW was announced on December 8, 2021, immediately ending Cortesian development on CivClassic, and catapulting Cortesia Del Mar into its Fourth Interim Period.

Geography

Cortesia Del Mar's mainland was diverse in shape and biome, though mostly dominated by forests and plains. The center of its claims had a large, circular lake named Lake Turtle, surrounded by wide, flat beaches, on which the attempted city of Ventura was established for some months. Elevation in this land varied wildly, with some areas, especially the southwest of the claims, having flat, arable land, while others, such as the southeast and north, were mountainous or otherwise elevated. Cortesia also claimed a number of nearby islands, including Thaegon, which was flat and heavily farmed, a nearby nether island, a small mushroom island, and several surrounding islands of varied usefulness.

Claim

The full claims of Cortesia Del Mar in their final state

Cortesian Cities

New Sol was Cortesia's oldest city and interim administrative and geographic capital.[7] It was located in a plains peninsula in the south of Cortesia's claim. The city, with a futuristic, "stacked" style, was run by Mayor EngineeringBean.

Ventura was an attempted Cortesian capital, planned until EOTW to be rebuilt better in the future. Perpetually under heavy construction, it wss located around the southern shore of Cortesia's Lake Turtle. Its goal was to host the seat of Cortesian government and involve the styles of all Cortesian cities.

Entrana City was the former capital of the Entranan Republic, which Cortesia pledged to preserve and protect. It was administrated by Brick_WallGaming, and was little changed in Cortesia's twelve months owning it.

Fort Liberty was another, smaller former Entranan city. Left almost entirely untouched for Cortesia's first nine months, the city played host to the future members of the Imperial Federation of Eddie Murphy for approximately three weeks while claim arrangements for the latter were made, in which time it was dramatically rebuilt by the Murphians in their style.

Constantinople was the former capital of the Order of the Knights Templar, and was situated in a grassy, square hole. Cortesia did not alter this city, though it did loot it.

Politics and Government

The so-called Republic of Cortesia Del Mar was run by a "transitionary oligarchy" consisting of IceCarim, EngineeringBean, Vedd, and yodabird19. This group, in tandem with the Republic's citizens, worked incessantly on the nation's intricate and corruption-proofed Constitution.

Culture

Inside Jokes

"Halfbreed master" / "GLHF go die in a fire halfbreed" - Insults directed by Zhuge at IceCarim during the April 1st revolution

"Don't come crawling back" - Removed secretariat member's "final warning" to Cortesia

"Regen moment" - Reference to despised MCAtlas "world regeneration" plugin which effectively griefed terrain

yodabird19's birthday - Jokes about and guesses at Vice President yodabird19's un-revealed birthday

epic_man_9 - Immature, overambitious leader of Exerticus on StarLegacy

yodabird19's PvP arena - An unapproved project undertaken by yodabird19 on RebirthCraft that got him demoted

"dntprtctsa" - Comical shortening of oft-repeated meaningless promise by ex-Cortesian "pirates" (griefers) not to pirate Cortesia on StarLegacy

"Insula Chan" / "Ina" - Anime girl based on Atlas nation Insula, drawn by concerningly adept resident artist

"rail gang" - Catchphrase of Atlas rail project (AIRP)

"Cock real quick please?" - Crude typo of a request for someone to hold a clock item (which, on StarLegacy, highlighted their presence on the dynmap)

"Momentous moment" - reference to clumsy statement in a speech by yodabird19 - "this moment is as momentous as any other momentous moment"

Trivia

  • Cortesia Del Mar is several months older than CivClassics, despite being a newfriend nation on the server.
  • A majority of Cortesia's transitionary oligarchy lives in the Southern Hemisphere.
  • Nobody has ever heard Vice President yodabird19 speak.
  • Cortesia's city of New Sol was once a self-governing city-state.
  • Cortesia's mainland claims are rumored to be similar in shape to Barney the Purple Dinosaur.

References

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/kp8lji/cortesia_del_mar_claims_the_entranan_continent/ghvkd2y?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
  2. This will link to the Cortesian Constitution when it is complete.
  3. If the text of this debate is publicized, link it here.
  4. Address from the Lambat Government-in-Exile : civclassics (reddit.com)
  5. Formal Dissolution of Lambat : civclassics (reddit.com)
  6. Declaring the formation of the Republic of Lambat (+ Q&A) : civclassics (reddit.com)
  7. https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/ka74sy/claim/