Icenia (CivClassic 2.0)

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The Republic of Icenia
Flag of Icenia
Flag of Icenia
Government and politics
GovernmentSemi-Democratic Republic
• President
ChrisChrispie
• Minister of Defense
SoundTech
• Minister of the Interior
Azulaloi
• Minister of Foreign Affairs
Lagiacrus11
• Judge
Quanton_Biscuit
• Judge
SailorWillis
• Judge
Anvil
MinistersElected by Citizens
Geography
Capital
and largest city
Icenia City
-1650, -1433
Links
Discord[1]

Icenia, or the Republic of Icenia, is a Semi-Democratic nation located in the -,- quadrant of the map led by ChrisChrispie, and well know for its storied past in the closing months of Civcraft 2.0. In Civclassic it is one a very active nation, with regular active people. Icenia borders Imperial Truidence in the east, Bloom in the north, and Varkonia in the west and south. Icenia also holds rightful claim over the 0,0 Nexus as per the Icenian-Finglish summit. Icenia is a cultural and religious hub with growing trade ambitions and a large player-base.

History

Pre-Civclassic History

Icenia's history traces back to its roots in Civcraft 2.0 as an outpost of Kaiserinreich. At the time of Icenia's initial founding as a colony, Kaiserinreich was involved in a conflict with SPQR and Volterra over sought after land needed for the production of EXP. The colony was established on the remote edges of the Kaiserinreich-Volterra boarder in an effort to create more legitimacy on the land as being rightfully Kaiserins, and to serve as a base for a potential invasion of Volterra through the North. Icenia however grew very quickly independent of Kaiserinreich itself, and soon the majority of the players within Kaiserinreich lived in Icenia. Due to the distance between Kaiserin City and Icenia City, and the lack of a strong ruler in Kaiserinreich, many Icenians began to reject Kaiserin rule, and on July 8th, 2015, declared independence from Kaiserinreich and joined the Grand Northern Alliance. After this, Icenia experienced a massive population boom of which it could not handle, and eventually suffered from its overall lack of infrastructure leading to its eventual annexation by Volterra.

Founding on Civclassic

In March of 2019, ChrisChrispie became active on the Civcraft community again after 2 years of inactivity and traveled to the -,- with the intention on joining Bloom and running for their Parliament. However, these plans did not pan out and after consulting with Varkonian leader Mickale, a tract of land over what once was Antietam Isles and Ring of Essence was granted to ChrisChrispie to re-establish Icenia. The re-establishment of Icenia occurred on March 11, 2019, and was announced to the Subreddit that night.

Pre-Constitution Era (March 2019)

Icenia's early development was initiated by ChrisChrispie shortly after Icenia's announcement in regards to their existence went public. Despite the notoriety of Icenia as a nation, most players on the server were well established and not many wanted to make the trek out to the then backwoods country. Thus, ChrisChrispie was alone when he built the first building in Icenia; a dirt shack on the beach. Slowly new players started to join the nation. The first few came from Musicbook, where ChrisChrispie was well known, but did not stick around for long. DarkMalivas was the first non-musicbook member to join the nation and built Icenia's first residential complex-the Sandstone Tower. The Sandstone Tower would later draw the ire of most Icenians as being an eyesore upon the expanding harbor skyline. Eventually, it was torn down after standing for three months to make way for Icenia's own Corvus shop.

It was around this time that Icenia began to develop its Chan influence when DreadedNova, a previous citizen of Polynesia in Civcraft 2.0, joined the nation and quickly moved up the ranks to become assistant leader of Icenia during its Pre-Constitution era. DreadedNova would go on to invite other players from various 4Chan associated Minecraft servers and soon Icenia began to grow at a quick pace-but nothing compared to what would later come. LordChieftain would join during this era too. During this time Icenia saw growth along Gapplar Drive-then considered the central hub of Icenian development. DreadedNova would build his windmill during this time and LordChieftain would construct the "Cobble Castle" - the first stage of a planned city development that would have made Icenia a walled and compact city. This plan never came to fruition. The Cobble Castle would later be torn down, and its basement used for the Icenian Space Needle-a massive skybunker complex which serves as the central station of command for the Icenian Militia.

First Icenian Population Boom (April 2019)

Icenia began experiencing a population boom at the end of March 2019. It was during this time that many Sovians established dual citizenship within Icenia including Pirater, Gamephobic, iakwai, and others. Icenia had also around this time completed a rail line to Bloom, which had just closed its borders to new players after continuing alt-raids caused issues for the nation. This caused many new players not associated with Sovia to join Icenia as well, given the fact that it was the closest active nation to Bloom in the region.

Involvement in Nyasan-Channer War

On April 9th, 2019 Sovia attacked UNC (United Northern Congress) nation Nyasaland for the pearling of Lakupippu. After heavy fighting and bombing of Palgrave City (Nyasaland's capital), the majority of the attackers were pearled and sent to either Mir's vault or Nyasaland's vault.

One of the attackers pearled in Sovia's attack on Nyasaland was LordChieftain, and the majority of the Sovian attackers had been granted, or were under the process to be granted, dual citizenship in the Republic of Icenia.

As a result, UNC-Icenian relations immediately took a turn for the worse. The UNC was strongly opposed to Icenia's notoriously strict anti-bounty hunting laws, and many Sovian's had taken refuge in Icenia after the attacks as a direct result of the laws. This caused accusations against Icenia claiming that the nation was harboring wanted criminals.

On April 13th, AngryPepsi, a new player under Sovian influence, attacked Palgrave City carrying on his person a number of end crystals and stacks of TNT. AngryPepsi was pearled, but shortly released and took refuge for a brief amount of time to be with the rest of the Sovians, most of who were now full citizens of Icenia due to the annexation of Sovia-Verdan land by Nyasaland and the reinstatement of the throne in Crowsroost (Verda's capital).

After being released, AngryPepsi would travel to Bloom with more end crystals and attempt to bomb the reinforced Bloom rail station. This attack was almost immediately stopped, but resulted in Bloom taking drastic measures against Icenia. Bloomians in Icenia were asked to close their shops, remove dual citizenship from the nation if they had it, and the Bloomian parliament took up a vote to restrict trade and travel to Icenia in totality via embargo. Although this would not pass due to diplomatic pressure, a rogue citizen of Bloom, HuM4nB3inG, would intentionally grief the Icenian-Bloom railway with a obsidian deathtrap. This resulted in his pearling by Bloom and sentencing in Icenia, being punished to penal labor building the new Icenian-Imperial Truidence rail line.

As a further result, Icenia removed its application to join the UNC, an organization which it had historically been apart of in 2.0 when it had operated under the GNA (Grand Northern Alliance) name.

Icenia City

Icenia City is a sprawling urban center that is the capital of the Republic of Icenia. With a population of approximately 35 active players, Icenia City is one of the most populated and active cities on the Civclassic server during the summer of 2019. The city does not conform to the standard "city block" meta that is common to Civcraft and instead utilizes a more organic planning methodology similar to those used in cities on the American East Coast. Icenia City is divided in to several smaller districts or neighborhoods that each contain a unique building style or theme. The most well known areas include The Jewish Quarter (JQ), Oak Row, Ram Ranch, and Mansion Row. Icenia City also houses the primary rail station in Icenia that has international rail lines to the Zero Zero (Nexus), Bloom, Varkonia (Gabon), Imperial Trudence, and Vinland. Furthermore, Icenia's rail station has a vast network of domestic lines that allow citizens and visitors to quickly traverse the nation. The city is surrounded by a series of wheat farms allowing new players access to free food.

The Jewish Quarter

The Jewish Quarter (JQ) is one of the most prominent and well designed portions of Icenia City. It contains the city's primary factory room and houses a vast portion of its shops and businesses. The district was constructed primarily by Figasaur and RabbiCroc after the events of the Great Jewish Diaspora from Mount Augusta. The Jewish Quarter also contains Icenia's largest synagogue of which, RabbiCroc is the Rabbi of. It is one of the most notable sources of Icenian culture and religion. Other prominent features of the Jewish Quarter include the Clock Tower, Wall of Prayers in which players can record their hopes and dreams, and the Jewish Quarter Apartments.

Oak Row

The name oak row was given to the street upon which many newfriends constructed their house. It is marked by buildings nearly completely constructed from the oak trees that blanket the island. While some consider it an eye sore, oak row has become a staple of Icenian culture and a reminder of Icenian history.

Ram Ranch

Ram Ranch is an idyllic staple of Icenian Culture and a prime example of the vast trade networks afforded to Icenia. Ram Ranch sells everyday goods that are key to keeping Icenia City stocked and productive.

Mansion Row

Mansion Row is low population, high build quality area in Icenia City. Located on the eastern edge of the city it is populated by several of Icenia's better builders. Mansion Row also contains a temple and the Hyperion Corporation headquarters.

Jah Park

Jah Park is one of the many holy sites of Jahaism. Dedicated to the rapper XXXTentacion, the park contains an open space sporting many stores and a large water fountain. Near the park, there are there are several Icenian heritage sites including the Grand Icenian Septic Tank and the Shitter Shack.

Capital District, Icenia City

The Icenian Capital District, or Icenia City consists of the main island of Icenia in which the overwhelming majority of its population resides. The capital district contains Icenia City, Sunnyshore Village, Old Concord, and a series of castles known as the Quantonimo Bay Castle, Antietam Isles Castle, Lord Chieftain's Castle, Fort Olenor, and Barad-dûr. The Capital District is almost entirely a forest biome with much of the island being an oak forest with a number of small lakes and ravines dotting the landscape. To the south there is a sparsely populated snowy forest biome that houses Fort Olenor.

Land of Many Castles

Icenia is home to five large castles, four of which are *mostly* complete. The Quantonimo Bay Castle sits at the waters edge to the north west of the island while Lord Chieftain's Castle guards the territory to the north west. Towards the center portion of the island the Antietam Isles Castle sits near the edge of Icenia City. To the south of Icenia City on the border of the snowy forest biome, Fort Olenor guards the end of Sunnyshore Loop Road. Finally in the bay to the south west of Icenia City, Barad-dûr rises from the ocean.

Farms and Plantations

Currently, most Icenian farmers practice subsistence agriculture as there are few cases of large scale farming or cash crop production. Currently the only examples of large scale farming are to the west of Icenia City where Ram Ranch produces potatoes, spruce, and wheat and the Icenian government operates a semi functional pumpkin farm.

Bridges and Highways

Bridges:

  • Bloom Friendship Bridge
  • Icenian-Imperial Truidence Bridge
  • Bayview City Bridge
  • Old Concord Bridge

Highways:

  • Bloom-Icenia National Highway: runs North into Bloomian territory and south into Icenia City.
  • Gapplar Mountains National Highway: runs from Icenia City through the Gapplar Mountains to Old Concord and Imperial Truidence.

External Districts

0,0 Nexus

The 0,0 Nexus was awarded to Icenia after the Icenian-Finglish Summit by John Smith aka. Stonato. This rail hub has long been abandoned and has fallen into disrepair however plans to renovate and revitalize it are underway in conjunction with Savion.

Helios

Helios is an Icenian territory containing a single nether biome with small scale netherwart production. At the moment this island is only accessible via boat, however there are plans to build a domestic rail line.

Canduro

Canduro is a Mesa Biome which was ceded to Icenia by Gensokyo to facilitate the production of cactus. It is connected to Icenia via the Icenia-Canduro rail line.


Law and Politics

Government Structure

The Icenian government consists of a President for life, an office which will be held by ChrisChrispie. The Icenian government also consists of a governing body referred to as “The Grand Council”. This council is democratically elected and is made up of the following members: Minister of the Interior, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade, three Grand Judges, and the Minister of Defense.

Minister of the Interior

The chief duties of the Minister of the Interior are:

  • To allocate land to new players, corporations, and general builds.
  • To build and maintain public farms, roads, government EXP farms, and factories.
  • To be in charge of the dereliction and demolition of abandoned properties in Icenia
  • To help develop the snitch and bastion network within the city in coordination with the Minister of Defense.
  • To maintain rail lines both domestic and international.
  • To be the chief distributor of UBI (Universal Basic Income).

Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade

The chief duties of the Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade are:

  • To work on developing alliances and trade partnerships with other nations on the server.
  • Serve as the chief ambassador to any alliance Icenia enters into.
  • Shall serve as a spokesperson for Icenia abroad.
  • Shall be in charge of building embassies and national EXP shops abroad.
  • Shall keep track of and build up the treasury of Icenia and keep a detailed list of expenses and income.

Grand Judge

The chief duties of the the three Grand Judges are:

  • To sentence criminals in Icenia.
  • To be the chief overseers of trials in Icenia.
  • To hear appeals, and decide upon them.
  • To uphold Icenian law.
  • To place bounty amounts upon suspected criminals.
  • To be the chief arbitrator of Icenia.

Minister of Defense

The chief duties of the Minister of Defense are:

  • In coordination with the Minister of the Interior, develop a snitch and bastion network within Icenia.
  • Build and construct a bunker network within Icenia.
  • Be chief operator and constructor of the Icenian vault.
  • Be in charge of the pearling of suspected criminals.
  • Maintain Icenian vaults, bunkers, and other militaristic structures.
  • Become General-At-Arms of the Icenian Military
  • Train military members about combat mechanics on Civclassic.

President

The President is the de-facto leader of Icenia and is in charge of developing a stable, growing, and viable nation. The president oversees each the Minister positions however the Minister positions maintain a significant amount of autonomy and separation from the president.

Bill of Rights

Rights of Icenian Citizens

  1. To fall under rule of all of the laws and benefits of the Icenian Constitution already mentioned.
  2. To have a right to freedom of speech and expression.
  3. To have the right to freedom of the press.
  4. To have the right to bear arms, which shall not be infringed upon under any circumstance.
  5. To have the right to conduct business within and outside of Icenia.
  6. To have the right to freedom of religion.
  7. To have the right to freely travel within Icenia.

Rights of Foreign Nationals

  1. The right to be able to pass through Icenia unhindered provided they fall under no restrictions.
  2. The right to enjoy the right to protection of life in Icenia.
  3. The right to be able to own property within Icenia provided they fall under no restrictions or have no sanction imposed upon them.

Rights of Suspected Criminals

  1. The right to remain silent.
  2. The right to an attorney/lawyer.
  3. The right to face a trial within three days of filing claims.
  4. The right to a fair trial in which they may defend themselves.
  5. The right to not face double jury sentencing.
  6. The right to be tried in Icenian court of law if they have Icenian claims upon them.  

Rights of Pearled Players

  1. The right to appeal their case within one month of sentencing if they choose to.
  2. The right to not be permapearled, or effectively permapearled.
  3. The right to be made aware of where there pearl will be stored.
  4. The right to receive a written account of their sentence.
  5. The right to request time served off their sentence while waiting in a pearl to be tried.
  6. The right to be held in Icenian captivity for the duration of their sentence, unless legally extradited.

Freedom of Speech

Under no circumstance shall any law be passed in Icenia infringing upon the right to freedom of speech and expression. This law excludes trading military secrets, confidential Icenian information, and doxxing of players. The right to freedom of speech and expression also includes the right to free press and publication, as well as religious orientation.

Right to Bear Arms

The right to bear arms in Icenia shall not be infringed upon by any law. No object of which could reasonably be used in the defense of someone's right to life, liberty, and property as defined by the Icenian Constitution shall be banned.

Culture and Religion

Jah

Jah, aka Jahseh Dwayne Ricardo Onfroy professionally known as XXXTentacion was a lyrical miracle and a god among men before his death on June 18, 2018. Since his death, he has become the sole deity in the Icenian faith Jahaism, a sect of Judaism. The religion is primarily practiced within Icenia, however there are a small number of other worships outside of the country.

Characteristics of Jahaism

Jahaism is loosely structured but primarily follows the beliefs outlined by Judaism with the exception of god being recognized as Jahseh Dwayne Ricardo Onfroy instead of 'God' as described in the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam). The religious head of Jahaism is RabbiCroc who operates a synagogue in the Jewish Quarter of Icenia. Hallowed symbols and artifacts include:

  • Gekyume's Foreskin
  • Black BMW i8s
  • Airpods
  • Poems and hymns written buy XXXTentaction himself.

Jah Day

Jah Day occures on June 18, in remembrance of our lord and savior Jahseh Dwayne Ricardo Onfroy's assassination. In Icenia, Jah Park becomes the center of the celebration.

  • Gekyume's Foreskin is placed upon a pedestal. The faithful line up to touch / kiss it to receive a blessing.
  • Prominent leaders and rabbis make speeches.
  • The faithful gather in a septic tank to bathe in the holy waters of Jah.
  • Jahmicas are distributed to participants.
  • Sacred airpods are given to the faithful. This is typically done in / on the Black BMW i8 that Jahseh was assassinated in.
  • Firework show.
  • Red torches are placed to signal the end of the holiday.

Bloody Wednesday

Bloody Wednesday occurs on April 25th of every to remember the illegal pearling of Figasaur and the bombing of Icenian protesters in Mount Augusta.

Septic Tanks

Septic tanks are a key feature in Icenian culture. Brought to popularity by Figasaur's daring escape from MtA, many homes in Icenia now posses this key feature. Icenia City also has a large public septic tank that has been home to several celebrations including Jah Day.

G vs Barkey

Icenia has an ongoing debate between whether 'G' or 'Barkey' is the superior statement. There is a dedicated g-barkey channel in the discord along with a highway and road named after the two legendary words / letters.

Foreign Relations

Interactions with Other Nations

New Sovia

Historically, Icenia maintained positive relations with Sovia/New Sovia, and much of the Pre-Constitution era was defined by a peaceful co-existence between Icenian's and Sovians in the nation. Many 'first wave' citizens in Icenia were avid players of /pol/andcraft, and were brought into Icenia by Sovians creating a strong early culture in the nation and several 'districts' with Ram Ranch being the most notable. The land Icenia was built upon was also at one point owned in part by Gamephobic, who's first house on the server still stands in the Southeastern region of Antietam Island, where Icenia City is located.

Relations began to sour after breaches of trust between the government of Icenia and Sovians. After the attack on Nyasaland, the government of Icenia cracked down on TNT stashes carried into the nation after it was discovered that AngryPepsi had compacted incredible amounts on the explosive and had stored it within Icenian territory. The UNC was also given the authority to pearl anyone involved in the Nyasaland bombing not yet captured even if they were residing in Icenia. Later, ChrisChrispie was accused of stealing diamond blocks from Pirater which were being used to help build New Sovia. When presented with evidence, ChrisChrispie gave the blocks back. However, this would permanently damage relations between the two groups.

Relations collapsed in mid June of 2019, when Swiftfizz and many other New Sovians entered Icenian territory and entered restricted land, later spamming the coordinates of this area in the in-game global group chat, Civclassic discord, and Civclassic subreddit. This resulted in Swiftfizz's banning from Icenia under the newly passed 'Reasonable Suspicion Act'. Days later, a player by the name of mugo would be pearled in New Sovia for carrying TNT on his person. This player would later be revealed to be an alt account of LordChieftain. A few days later the conflict heated up into what is known as the 'Clown Wars'.

Imperial Truidence

Icenia and Imperial Truidence are neighboring countries that have maintained positive relations. While there is no formal alliance, both nations regularity assist the other with projects and mutual defense against petty raiders. Recently, both countries have begun the process of exchanging embassies to further improve relations.

Alliances

UDF

UNC

Icenia was historically a member of the Civcraft 2.0 'GNA' alliances whicofhformer UNC members Bloom and Imperial Truidence. The UDF was formed in late July after the collapse of the UNC in an effort to shore up relations with shallow -,- nations and create mutual infrastructure between the three towns. included nations such as Volterra (P.D. Varkonia), SPQR (FMR Kaiserin/2.0 SPQR), Senntisten, Balkania, and Terminus. Hjaltland was also for a short time a member of the GNA, but in its Civclassic form is a member of SATO. Icenia had originally intended to join the UNC due to these historical connections despite the fact that GNA alts had raided and attacked Icenia during the closing months of its existence as an independent nation in Civcraft 2.0 in an effort to break the spirit of its citizens and get them to join. The UNC had also given early support to the establishment of Icenia in Civclassic, with Varkonia giving the new nation city bastions and materials for basic factories. Bloom also gave early attention to Icenia and even requested that Icenia join Bloom as a separate city within their nation.

However, early on relations with UNC nations began to fray. First, LordChieftain was pearled by then UNC (United Northern Congress) member Swiftfizz and brought to the Varkonia vault over 'terroristic threats' made on Icenian soil. This violated Icenia's anti-bounty hunting laws and LordChieftain was released. Then due to the events of Sovia's attack upon Nyasaland, and Icenia's perceived harboring of individuals wanted in the UNC, member nations of the alliance began to doubt their ability to work with Icenia in a constructive manner. Around this time Icenia decided to cancel its request to join the alliance.

After pulling their request out, the UNC made several attempts to work on creating regional policy with Icenia over the nations bounty hunting restrictions through BritishWanderer (UNC spokesperson) and other members. The treaty proposed to Icenia would have made it legal for UNC member nations to send bounty hunters into Icenia if an active threat persisted, however the treaty contained no right for Icenia to do the same. Furthermore, Icenia requested that no bounty hunting for UNC interests within Icenian territory would be done by players associated with Mir, and that Icenian citizens would not be allowed to be bounty hunted at all unless an explicit request was made by UNC leaders to Icenian government officials. As a result the treaty was scrapped around Easter of 2019.

Despite this, the UNC remains Icenia's greatest trading partner. As of June 2019, the Varkonia remains the only active EXP and Bastion supplier in Icenia after the shuttering of HJI on an international scale, and Bloom continues to export massive amounts of enchanted tools to Icenia. The UNC and Icenia also have mutual infrastructure together, with Icenia maintaining two international rail lines to Gabon (Varkonia) and Bloom. Many UNC members also maintain dual citizenship in Icenia, the majority of which are from Bloom.

SATO

After pulling out of their application to join the UNC, Icenia opted to attempt to join SATO due to mutual connections to many of the alliances previous leadership being associated with nations that ChrisChrispie had connections with in Civcraft 2.0, notably Bgbba through Chanada, who was now leading Yoahtl. SATO was also the only alliance outside of the UNC that was relatively stable in the world at the time as NATO was engaged in an ongoing and stalled war with Mir, and joining the NCA was out of question. SATO was hesitant to let Icenia fully on board given the nations reputation for being rowdy in server politics and the fact that Figasaur and Cr0codile, members of the JQ, had moved to Icenia and were accepted there as major members of Icenian society. However, despite these reservations, SATO voted to bring Icenia on as an associate member believing that if the JQ was to be contained, it was best contained in an area such as Icenia.

Relations with SATO while in the alliance were lukewarm, while SATO hesitantly supported Icenia during the Mount Augusta extradition crisis, relations began to become frayed as Icenia and Bloom continued petty spats over Fig and Croc's willingness to stir the pot in the region and throw accusations of anti-antisemitism at other leaders. This came to a head after the first Icenian ministerial debate in late May, 2019 when then candidate Fig accused specificlanguage (managing Mount Augustan voter registration) of various allegations in regards to Fig's time in the Mount Augustan JQ. It was at this time that a mutual agreement was made between Icenia and members of SATO that the alliance was simply not going to work. Since then relations have only continued to get worse, with SATO nation Caledonia, a major trading partner with Icenia, elected to annex the Brotherhood of Steel after consistent threats made by its leader YourAverageRick directed at citizens of the Icenia, the loss of Icenian pearls in Hjaltland's vault resulting in a resuming of alt-raiding in the city. Despite all of this, Icenia remains close with several SATO nations including Vinland and The Commonwealth.

Wars

Icenia has been involved in two wars, one with New Sovia dubbed 'The Clown Wars' and an ongoing one with Nipplerock. Both wars are defensive in nature as Icenia is not a heavily militarized nation.

Clown Wars

The Clown War was an undeclared war / conflict with New Sovia that mostly consisted of subreddit pvp with a small amount of action consisting of a series of Sovian trespasses on Icenian military installations, the assassination and pearling of Icenian Judge: Quanton_Biscuit, the pearling of mugo, and a small raid / riot within Icenia City. A peace deal between the two nations was signed June, 26th, 2019 after Icenia placed an 800 diamond bounty on Swiftfizz.

Icenia - Nipplerock Conflict

The Icenia - Nipplerock Conflict is an ongoing war with Gantoe_, leader of Nipplerock. The war initially started when President ChrisChrispie jokingly stated that Nipplerock was an illegitimate state. Gantoe_ then proceeded to TNT bomb several Icenian properties including Ram Ranch, and Gnome Inn. Due to damage to Icenian property, the Republic of Icenia offered Gantoe_ their surrender along with a number of 'air-pods'. Gantoe_ refused the Icenian surrender and continues his bombing spree of terror to this day. It should be noted that Gantoe_ is a server wide meme and this war is mostly all in good fun.