TNSC-Acadia Conflict

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The No State Commune (TNSC) and Acadia had a slowly growing conflict that ultimately ended with Acadia destroying TNSC, leading to the fall of TNSC.

Backstory of events pre-Acadia

In late July 2021, the player RainOfPain125 from CivRealms and CivUniverse started playing on CivClassics, choosing to settle close to the north of Acadia with a group of newfriends and establishing The No State Commune.[1] This immediately resulted in an uncomfortable situation for Acadia as due to previous events on CivRealms prominent members of Acadia including Cortwade and JuniorTide held bad blood with Rain, the two of whom TNSC considered to be "violent anti-communists".[2]

Events leading up to conflict

Despite the way lots of Acadian government members treated Rain formerly in Norlund, peace and co-existence was always the most clear and obvious option for all members of TNSC.[3] Acadia claims they had the same idea, that they initially meant to settle for an "uncomfortable peace".[citation needed] And yet conflict between the two nations started from the very beginning, despite their best intentions.

JuniorTide's house "griefed" with signs

JuniorTide reported and provided a screenshot of one of his Acadian homes sporting signs on the front such as "NORTH KOREA BEST KOREA" and other kinds of left-leaning statements. With no evidence, he accused Rain as the one who made them. Rain fired back reminding JuniorTide that he was an Anarchist and is against the North Korean dictatorship. On top of this, Rain had only very recently joined CivClassics and was still in the +,+ territory, which was nowhere near JuniorTide's home. Despite having no evidence to support his claim that Rain put signs around his home, he publicly threatened to "glass" him[4] which came off as extremely aggressive to TNSC.

Pentigrass-Icenia incident

At some point a new user joined CivClassics named Pentigrass, he was invited by Rain and was new to the Civ genre. He was told multiple times to treat people kindly and to not raid or steal anything along his journey to TNSC land. Despite these warnings he started to break into things until he was caught and pearled in Icenia.

Frustrated with himself and being pearled, he tried to lie and claim that Rain ordered him to raid and steal to support TNSC, believing that if he blamed Rain it would give him a "lighter sentence". He would later admit directly to Rain about how he lied to throw Rain under the bus.[5] Despite Pentigrass admitting his own wrong doing, many who opposed Rain stuck with this new false narrative that Rain was out to incite violence and raiding among the community. With this narrative members in Acadia and other nations tried to run with the rumors and make Rain out to be an enemy that needs to be dealt with.

hawkeye0066-Acadia incident

This idea of Rain being a nefarious untrustworthy malicious raider was further propagandized when another member of TNSC who was new to Civ, hawkeye0066, against TNSC warnings decided to start raiding and stealing things in Acadia just like Pentigrass. He was caught, and was told by TNSC to return what he stole and turn himself in, which he did. This situation was almost immediately resolved with hawkeye being quickly released after his apology and return of items. In fact people in Acadia offered him a house and citizenship.

Rain's Mining Trip

On July 27th, 2021 Rain was mining for ore underground at bedrock level when he stumbled across mines that other players had already dug out. However, these users seemed to only be interested in diamonds because they had left all other ores - iron, redstone, lapis - ores which TNSC required. While mining along these pathways he came across an underground bunker, walking around inspecting it to find a sign of ownership until Egi logged on. Egi seemed concerned at first, but seemed more peaceful as he advised Rain that he was in Acadia territory, demanding that he leaves and mines elsewhere, orders which Rain followed.

Acadia Raids TNSC's Bunker

Acadia Raiding Party
DateJuly 28th, 2022
Location
Result Successful plunder of TNSC
Belligerents
The No State Commune Acadia,
Icenia (JuniorTide)
Commanders and leaders
Big obsidian bunker Egi
Units involved

Reinforced Block 1
Reinforced Block 2
Reinforced Block 3
Reinforced Block 4

And the many others we did not name.
Egi
JuniorTide
Polygondwana
Casualties and losses
Mass-griefing, mass-theft Loss of dignity

By tomorrow on July 28th, 2021 when Rain logged in he found that TNSC's only bunker was completely broken into and robbed. The snitch logs implied Acadia was responsible, the members of the raiding party consisted of JuniorTide (Citizen of Acadia & Icenia), Egi (Acadian Minister of "Defense"), and Polygondwana (Poly is probably an alt). The three man raiding party completely destroyed the bunker and stole everyone's gear. Sometime after the assault TNSC players logged on and found the bunker in ruins, realizing that Acadia was responsible Rain and TNSC issued an angry international dispute to the CivClassics subreddit.[6]

The raiding party received little to no consequences as a result of raiding the newfriend bunker, never being held accountable for their toxic actions. On the same day that the raid was revealed to the international community, a vote was held in Acadia against Egi for "Impeachment of Egi as Minister of Defense due to unauthorized use of force against TNSC". The vote failed with only 1 in favor, 6 against, and 2 abstaining. Icenia seemed to commit absolutely no punishment against JuniorTide, not even removing him from Icenia, or denouncing him, demoting him, etc. Polygondwana is a name nobody is familiar with, so it is assumed that they are an alt.

Acadia's Justifications

In the aftermath Acadia started to receive international pushback due to invading TNSC unprovoked, being seen as raiding harmless newfriends for no reason provided. Acadia would later come out with an official post attempting to justify their invasion,[7][8] however TNSC was quick to disprove almost all of their claims.

"Rain was breaking into our bunkers"

Rain was accused of running around near the Acadian bunkers to try and bust open a vault and free someone's pearl. This claim that Rain was breaking into any bunkers or vaults is never substantiated or backed up in any capacity beyond logs of him walking past the bunker.[9] To further prove this claim wrong Rain uploaded a video of his entire mining trip start-to-finish that brought him near the Acadian bunkers, proving to the community that he was never at any point trying to break in. The video also shows his conversation with Egi that night.[10]

"Rain's goons were raiding everyone"

It is still unclear as to why Acadia used this to justify their invasion, as both incidents of TNSC members stealing from others was handled properly and seen as resolved on all sides.

"TNSC had high-value tools"

Acadia claims[citation needed] to have learned that TNSC possessed many hundreds of diamonds and many high-value tools just mere days after declaring The No State Commune, leading to concerns that they were being supplied by a possible hostile sponsor. However in reality, the commune was gifted a box of goodies from Rain's good friend Avo as a sign of socialist solidarity and friendship, providing them all with good pickaxes for getting resources - hence why they had so many diamonds.

TTastic, Okx, MrJeremyFarmer Raid

Okx-TNSC Battle
DateJuly 28th, 2022
Location
Result Successful pushback of attacking forces
Belligerents
The No State Commune Yoahtl,
Vinland,
Southshire
Units involved

Zombie_Striker,

RainOfPain125
Okx
Casualties and losses
A few healing potions Massive loss of dignity. L
Shitter Raiding Party
DateJuly 28th, 2022
Location
Result Failure to pearl intended targets
Belligerents
The No State Commune Icenia (Jeremy),
Yoahtl (Okx),
Vinland (Okx),
Southshire (Okx)
Commanders and leaders
RainOfPain125 Unclear
Units involved

RainOfPain125, Zombie_Striker, UnknownKarnij, hawkeye0066,

Others
TTastic,
Okx,
MrJeremyFarmer
Casualties and losses
Temporarily logboxxed Loss of dignity

After announcing to the international community what Acadia had done, many TNSC members did not know what to do - whether they should quit the server or move far away from Acadia and so on. Though it didn't take long for others to exploit our panic and weakness.

Later in the same day, a raiding party sponsored by an unknown organization / nation came to attack. At first Okx came to pearl Rain and Zombie, but the two of them fought hard enough to get him to retreat away from the bunker. Okx was already caught wandering around TNSC hitting snitches, and failing to provide a reason for his unannounced visit.[11][12]

Not long after, the full raiding party came consisting of TTastic, Okx and MrJeremyFarmer with intent to pearl everyone with no reason provided. Their mission failed as Zombie, Rain, and all other members successfully evaded being pearled.

TNSC took to the international community again on the same day, exposing them for their shitter behavior against the newfriend town.[13] After taking a break to think and breath, TNSC returned to the international community a day later on July 29th to clear things up and provide all the evidence everyone would ever need, mostly via video proof.[14]

It was unclear what nations Okx, TTastic and MrJeremyFarmer belonged to, but it is clear that they were never held accountable or punished for their shitter behavior. We believed Okx was apart of Yoahtl, which they claimed he sort of was and then said they weren't going to do anything to hold him accountable, nor were they going to take responsibility for his actions.

Rumors spread afterwards

"Zombie was funnelling commies into Acadia"

Due to Rain and Zombie's friendship, and Zombie being a member of Acadia, it made her an easy target to lay blame against. Shortly after Acadia's raid on TNSC a user FE_Flags who ran the Workers of Acadia Party (WAP) accused Zombie, claiming that she created a big shadow scheme where Rain would recruit new commies into WAP in order to sway elections, and in return Rain would get diamonds or something like that. There was no evidence to support that such a deal ever occured, and Rain was never aware of any kind of deal. As far as Rain is concerned if such a deal was ever proposed, then it was never agreed upon or committed to.

Acadian Senator Tsar Ivan, run by FE_Flags, spoke with Zombie_Striker directly, in which an admission of funneling Acadian funds into the hands of RainOfPain125 in exchange for recruits into Acadia which never came.[15][16][17] However the counter-argument is that the conversation was intended to expose Flags as a traitor who was willing to betray Acadia, considering that this "deal" was never acted upon and was merely discussed. This would make Zombie look like a "good commie" and could overall improve the outlook of leftism in Acadia. Bear in mind Flags was already considering leaving Acadia.

"Zombie sabotaged Acadia"

A player in Acadia[who?] accused Zombie of breaking a factory after the raid on TNSC's bunker, claiming it must have been an act of sabotage but they did not provide any hard evidence. TNSC joked that she should obby bomb Acadia, but of course she and the other members never intended on doing it.

A member of Acadia Bloof_ would later go on to threaten Rain on CivMC, believing he had told Zombie to sabotage Acadia's diamond factory among other things.

Results

  • Zombie_Striker in light of the two accusations quietly left CivClassics to distance herself from the drama and the rumors against her.
  • TNSC renamed to Consortium to try and rebrand itself before dying off
  • Acadia, Icenia & Yoathyl never held any of the raiders Egi, JuniorTide, Polygondwana, Okx, TTastic, or MrJeremyFarmer accountable for their actions

References