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Although the state of their relations could mostly be best described as a cold war, it notably spilled over into a hot one in the [[Riverford War]] in late 2014. The two nations also pearled a number of each other's citizens in some isolated incidents, including most notably the "Grundespology."<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/DanzilonanCourt/comments/28qnyh/new_danzilona_v_greenkitten_killer_chris_and/</ref>Nevertheless, there were also some periods of peace, especially during the summer of 2014 when Grundeswald citizen Amunak became the first and only NDZ-Grundeswald dual citizen and attempted reconciliation between the two.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Danzilona/comments/2frenm/peace_has_been_declared_and_a_border_agreement/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Danzilona/comments/2a9nvf/the_grundeswald_embassy_the_first_step_toward_a/</ref> Grundeswegian mazznoff also continuously operated an armour shop in [[New Danzilona#Danzmarket|NDZ's market district]].<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Danzilona/comments/36yj3h/marketplace_information_current_52215/</ref>
Although the state of their relations could mostly be best described as a cold war, it notably spilled over into a hot one in the [[Riverford War]] in late 2014. The two nations also pearled a number of each other's citizens in some isolated incidents, including most notably the "Grundespology."<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/DanzilonanCourt/comments/28qnyh/new_danzilona_v_greenkitten_killer_chris_and/</ref>Nevertheless, there were also some periods of peace, especially during the summer of 2014 when Grundeswald citizen Amunak became the first and only NDZ-Grundeswald dual citizen and attempted reconciliation between the two.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Danzilona/comments/2frenm/peace_has_been_declared_and_a_border_agreement/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Danzilona/comments/2a9nvf/the_grundeswald_embassy_the_first_step_toward_a/</ref> Grundeswegian mazznoff also continuously operated an armour shop in [[New Danzilona#Danzmarket|NDZ's market district]].<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Danzilona/comments/36yj3h/marketplace_information_current_52215/</ref>

== History ==

=== Early 2.0 Unofficial Relations ===
Although both the Danzilonans and the Grundeswegians joined Civcraft at the very start of the server, official relations weren't established until almost a year later in early 2014. However, a number of indirect interactions occurred throughout 2013 that set the stage for future relations. The first of these interactions was when the Cthulhu Cult, a newfriend raider group roleplaying as Islamist terrorists, lavagriefed and raided homes in NDZ in early August 2013.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Danzilona/comments/1jkwdi/the_cult_of_cthulhu/</ref>The criminals were bountied and a holy war was declared against them by the Church of [[Ranubism|Ranubis]] but to no avail.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Civcraft/comments/1jsaqx/i_the_last_prophet_of_ranubism_call_for_holy_war/</ref> The group made a video taunting the Danzilonans over not being caught shortly before going inactive over the following weeks.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwPBHmeM35c</ref>NDZ was able to entirely clean up, and the incident flew under the radar of most of the Danzilonans for the rest of their history. A year later, however, it was indirectly revealed by Grundeswald that the Cult had been given supplies and targets by the Grundeswegians who shared bits of their ideology.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Civcraft/comments/3pr60f/which_fuckwit_from_iria_released_all_of_the_inf/</ref>

The second of these encounters occurred in the form of a Reddit post made by the Grundeswegians in support of the Irish Republican Army in which the poster semi-facetiously mocked British people, calling them "cockroaches."<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/Grundeswald/comments/1pgbg0/the_effects_of_the_irish_republic_army_on_the/</ref>Grundeswegian culture was also partly based on Irish culture, such as the mascot seen in the sidebar of their subreddit and in the Grundeswegian song "Go On Home Brynian Soldiers" (a parody of the song [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_rebel_song "Go on home, British soldiers"]). As NDZ at the time had a relatively large population of British citizens, some Danzilonans were offended and got into subreddit spats with the Grundeswegians over their country of origin in one thread in October 2013.

Though these interactions were unofficial and/or indirect, it planted the seed of bitter reception and cold feelings between the sides, with each of them now aware of each other as ideological rivals.

=== Initial Contact and Attempt at Friendship ===
The first official contact made between Grundeswald and NDZ came on March 8, 2014. After forming [[New Leningrad - Grundeswald Defence Pact|a defensive pact with New Leningrad]], Grundeswegian leader Killer_Chris approached


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A map of the Civcraft 2.0 +,+ with the final land claims of New Danzilona (orange) and Grundeswald (administered land in green, claimed but not administered in lighter green) highlighted.

Grundeswald–New Danzilona relations refers to the foreign relations between the Kingdom of Grundeswald (and to a lesser extent, the entire Holy Krautchan Empire) and New Danzilona (including the entire Danzilonan Federation), which includes the diplomatic, cultural, and economic ties and tensions between the two nations on Civcraft 2.0. They were close geographically and shared a border with each other's allies, but the two countries were not apart of any mutual organisations and were largely hostile to each other mostly on ideological grounds. The Grundeswegians formed a pseudo-satirical far-right, jingoistic, and chauvinistic government and society, whereas New Danzilona was a socially progressive liberal democracy for most of its existence. Although relations were initially neutral and sometimes even friendly, New Danzilona was in fact Grundeswald's closest neighbour who didn't sympathise with their ideology and vice versa, and so NDZ became Grundeswald's natural target for griefing, raiding, and trolling as NDZ attempted to keep their distance. Grundeswald also opposed NDZ through their anti-World Police sentiment, as NDZ largely favoured the WP and was home to some of its fighters, like TheTrackball and JPEGz.

Although the state of their relations could mostly be best described as a cold war, it notably spilled over into a hot one in the Riverford War in late 2014. The two nations also pearled a number of each other's citizens in some isolated incidents, including most notably the "Grundespology."[1]Nevertheless, there were also some periods of peace, especially during the summer of 2014 when Grundeswald citizen Amunak became the first and only NDZ-Grundeswald dual citizen and attempted reconciliation between the two.[2][3] Grundeswegian mazznoff also continuously operated an armour shop in NDZ's market district.[4]

History

Early 2.0 Unofficial Relations

Although both the Danzilonans and the Grundeswegians joined Civcraft at the very start of the server, official relations weren't established until almost a year later in early 2014. However, a number of indirect interactions occurred throughout 2013 that set the stage for future relations. The first of these interactions was when the Cthulhu Cult, a newfriend raider group roleplaying as Islamist terrorists, lavagriefed and raided homes in NDZ in early August 2013.[5]The criminals were bountied and a holy war was declared against them by the Church of Ranubis but to no avail.[6] The group made a video taunting the Danzilonans over not being caught shortly before going inactive over the following weeks.[7]NDZ was able to entirely clean up, and the incident flew under the radar of most of the Danzilonans for the rest of their history. A year later, however, it was indirectly revealed by Grundeswald that the Cult had been given supplies and targets by the Grundeswegians who shared bits of their ideology.[8]

The second of these encounters occurred in the form of a Reddit post made by the Grundeswegians in support of the Irish Republican Army in which the poster semi-facetiously mocked British people, calling them "cockroaches."[9]Grundeswegian culture was also partly based on Irish culture, such as the mascot seen in the sidebar of their subreddit and in the Grundeswegian song "Go On Home Brynian Soldiers" (a parody of the song "Go on home, British soldiers"). As NDZ at the time had a relatively large population of British citizens, some Danzilonans were offended and got into subreddit spats with the Grundeswegians over their country of origin in one thread in October 2013.

Though these interactions were unofficial and/or indirect, it planted the seed of bitter reception and cold feelings between the sides, with each of them now aware of each other as ideological rivals.

Initial Contact and Attempt at Friendship

The first official contact made between Grundeswald and NDZ came on March 8, 2014. After forming a defensive pact with New Leningrad, Grundeswegian leader Killer_Chris approached

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