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{{Infobox military conflict
{{Infobox military conflict
| conflict = Gensokyo Conspiracies
| conflict = Gensokyo Conspiracies
| place = [[Gensokyo]], [[Nara]], [[Dalgon]], [[Western Boundary]]
| place = [[Gensokyo]], [[Nara]], [[Dalgon]]
| date = 8/1/2022-8/26/2022 (25 days)
| date = 8/1/2022-8/26/2022 (25 days)
| combatant1 = {{flag|Nara}}<br>
| combatant1 = {{flag|Nara}}<br>
{{flag|Dalgon}}<br>
{{flag|Dalgon}}<br>
{{flagicon|境界の西部共和国}} [[Western Boundary]]<br>
Supported by:
* '''too many to list, list some with citations later'''
| combatant2 = {{flag|Gensokyo}}<br>
| combatant2 = {{flag|Gensokyo}}<br>
Supported by:
Supported by:
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* {{flagicon|Nara}} [[Saren_Solaris]]
* {{flagicon|Nara}} [[Saren_Solaris]]
* {{flagicon|Dalgon}} [[fredhun14]]
* {{flagicon|Dalgon}} [[fredhun14]]
* {{flagicon|境界の西部共和国}} [[ChewLeKitten]]
* {{flagicon|境界の西部共和国}} [[MrJoCrafter]]
* {{flagicon|境界の西部共和国}} [[xtasy]]
| commander2 = * {{flagicon|Gensokyo}} [[Topaz4293]]
| commander2 = * {{flagicon|Gensokyo}} [[Topaz4293]]
* {{flagicon|Gensokyo}} [[animeme_master]]
* {{flagicon|Gensokyo}} [[animeme_master]]
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| casualties1 = {{flagicon|Nara}} None<br>
| casualties1 = {{flagicon|Nara}} None<br>
{{flagicon|Dalgon}} None<br>
{{flagicon|Dalgon}} None<br>
{{flagicon|境界の西部共和国}} 1 banned temporarily
| casualties2 = {{flagicon|Gensokyo}}
| casualties2 = {{flagicon|Gensokyo}}
* 2 pearled
* 2 pearled
* 1 banned
* 1 banned
* semi-public nether portal dismantled and reclaimed by Dalgon
* semi-public nether portal dismantled and reclaimed by Dalgon
| strength1 = {{flagicon|Nara}} 15-17 engaged<br>
| strength1 = {{flagicon|Nara}} 2-3+ engaged<br>
{{flagicon|Dalgon}} 5+ engaged<br>
{{flagicon|Dalgon}} 1+ engaged<br>
{{flagicon|境界の西部共和国}} 6 engaged
| strength2 = {{flagicon|Gensokyo}} 3+ engaged
| result = Naran moral victory
| strength2 = {{flagicon|Gensokyo}} 9+ engaged (including foreign volunteers)
| result = '''Anti-Gensokyo Concord Decisive Victory'''
| territory = Gensokyo quits CivMC
| territory = Gensokyo quits CivMC
}}
}}


The '''Gensokyo-Naran Skirmish''' was a short military conflict between bordering nations [[Gensokyo]] and [[Nara]]. With sour relations between the two countries, a Naran decision to investigate bunkers on continent was eventually seen as an act of aggression by Gensokyo, with the resulting actions from both sides creating situations of harassment.
The '''Gensokyo Conspiracies''' were a series of interconnected conflicts characterized by aggression and conspiracy by members of the [[Alenarith]] nation [[Gensokyo]] against several other nations on [[CivMC]]. It was notable for including [[Nara|all three]] [[Gensokyo|Japanese-themed nations]] [[Western Boundary|on the map.]]


== History ==
== History ==


=== Western Boundary (xtasy) - Gensokyo (dyl) Incident ===
=== Tensions between Gensokyo and Nara ===
The leadership of Gensokyo put out a POS on [[Western Boundary]] senator [[xtasy]], due to two messages he sent to Gensokyojin player dyl, causing them to quit.
[[File:Topaz v xtasy.png|left|thumb|MrJoCrafter attempts to get Topaz to retract the threat on xtasy.]]
[[SinjoroJoCrafter]] of Western Boundary attempted diplomacy with the Gensokyo leadership, making the broad case that the two messages, one of which read "ur fat and ugly" and the other which read "you never learned to control your emotions", did not rise to the level of anything that could be considered harassment, and also that Dyl had a history of overreacting violently to trivial slights (read: the infamous Funko Pop Incident).

Topaz did not want to hear Jo's diplomatic arguments, however, insisting "I'm not [willing to budge on this issue]".

This lead to heightened tensions between the two Touhou-themed nations, and also to Gensokyo fighter [[Ferro]] sending a compilation of screenshots<ref>https://imgur.com/a/wAMbRk8</ref> including minor insults Jo made as well as [[Magnasoria war|refrences to conduct that got Ferro banned on CivClassic]]. Despite the protected speech and mild nature of the comments themselves, [[MrJoCrafter]] was banned from CivMC for two weeks.<blockquote>"Someone wasn't raised properly 😬"

''-Queen of Makai [[ChewLeKitten]], commenting on the incident''</blockquote>

=== Heightening Tensions between Gensokyo and Nara ===
''to fill in later with primary sources''
''to fill in later with primary sources''


=== Battle of West Tenseimiya Plains ===
=== Battle of West Tenseimiya Plains ===
[[Saren Solaris]], a Naran samurai, was searching for a bunker belonging to the notorious raider [[Vah]], who had raided all over the world, especially in [[Alenarith]]. He walked a few dozen blocks inside the borders of Gensokyo, which he had been told he was not allowed to do by Topaz. He was asked to leave by Topaz and began to do so, but almost immediately two Gensokyojin fighters, [[Asuramaru]] and [[Ferro]], descended upon Saren, giving chase. Saren ran for around 300 more blocks (within Naran territory) but eventually turned around to face the two fighters attempting to pearl him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/CivMC/comments/wv5jzh/two_gensokyo_menace_jumps_me_at_their_border_and/</ref><ref>https://youtu.be/nyiu7Sam1T0</ref>
[[Saren Solaris]], a Naran citizen, was searching for a bunker belonging to the notorious raider [[Vah]], who raided many nations in [[CivMC]], especially in [[Alenarith]]. He walked a few dozen blocks inside the borders of Gensokyo, which he had been told he was not allowed to do by Topaz. He was asked to leave by Topaz and began to do so, but almost immediately two Gensokyojin fighters, [[Asuramaru]] and [[Ferro]], descended upon Saren, giving chase. Saren ran for around 300 more blocks (within Naran territory) but eventually turned around to face the two fighters attempting to pearl him. Eventually, while some fighting occurred in Gensokojin territory, both Ferro and Asuramaru were pearled outside of Gensokyo and Nara, in [[Cortesia del Mar]] and the [[Free Danzilonan Republic]].<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/CivMC/comments/wv5jzh/two_gensokyo_menace_jumps_me_at_their_border_and/</ref><ref>https://youtu.be/nyiu7Sam1T0</ref>
[[File:Leaked gensokyo conspiracy.png|left|thumb|252x252px|Gensokyo leadership and others plot to 'do crime' against Saren, among others.]]
[[File:Leaked gensokyo conspiracy.png|left|thumb|252x252px|Gensokyo leadership and others plot to 'do crime' against Saren, among others.]]
Saren quickly turned the tables on his assailants, however, pearling both Gensokyojin fighters.


Saren afterwards revealed leaked correspondences between Gensokyo leadership as well as others<ref>https://imgur.com/a/g3AgYse</ref> to plot "to assemble a list of people to do crime against" (in [[GenericLaqey]]'s words). This proved that the attack on Saren was premeditated.
Saren afterwards revealed leaked correspondences between Gensokyo leadership as well as others<ref>https://imgur.com/a/g3AgYse</ref> to plot "to assemble a list of people to do crime against" (in [[GenericLaqey]]'s words). This proved that the attack on Saren was premeditated.
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After pearling the two fighters, and refusing his government's demand to have control over the pearls, Saren set the condition of the freeing of the two pearls as the fighters admitting they were wrong and apologizing to Saren, probably estimating (correctly) that the two fighters would be too prideful to accede to that demand.
After pearling the two fighters, and refusing his government's demand to have control over the pearls, Saren set the condition of the freeing of the two pearls as the fighters admitting they were wrong and apologizing to Saren, probably estimating (correctly) that the two fighters would be too prideful to accede to that demand.


Dualing PR pushes were put out by both sides<ref>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f8iR1SffVoYE-JuCT-6wje9A_d0SFH89UJ2iOpbZtLg/edit</ref><ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/CivMC/comments/wyea10/interim_statement_on_dnagensokyo_relations/</ref><ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/CivMC/comments/wyq57v/my_attempt_at_diplomacy_has_failed_post_memes/</ref>, but public opinion overall seemed to lean towards DNA (Dalgon-Nara Alliance) and against Gensokyo.
Dualing PR pushes were put out by both sides<ref>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f8iR1SffVoYE-JuCT-6wje9A_d0SFH89UJ2iOpbZtLg/edit</ref><ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/CivMC/comments/wyea10/interim_statement_on_dnagensokyo_relations/</ref><ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/CivMC/comments/wyq57v/my_attempt_at_diplomacy_has_failed_post_memes/</ref>, but while public opinion overall seemed to lean towards DNA (Dalgon-Nara Alliance) and against Gensokyo, members of both parties were eventually banned or timed out for a period of time.


Enraged by her and her allies' inability to pearl Saren, Asuramaru doxxed Saren_Solaris in a fit of rage,<ref>https://imgur.com/a/jtKkIAr</ref> sending him his exact place of employment in an in-game direct message with a subtle threat of violence. This caused widespread international condemnation of both Asuramaru and Gensokyo once the doxxing was revealed.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/CivMC/comments/wyqb6n/sussiest_dm_ive_gotten_in_civ_to_date/</ref> Asuramaru was banned from CivMC, presumably permanently.
Enraged by her and her allies' inability to pearl Saren, Asuramaru doxxed Saren_Solaris in a fit of rage,<ref>https://imgur.com/a/jtKkIAr</ref> sending him his exact place of employment in an in-game direct message with a subtle threat of violence. Both Saren and Asuramaru, among others were banned from [[CivMC]] as a result of harassment from this conflict.

Bizarrely, [[Topaz4293]] stated, in a post declaring Gensokyo's "hiatus from civmc" that "the [CivMC] admins were not enforcing their rules fairly".




== Gallery ==
== Gallery ==
Lots of memes were made about the incidents, especially by Nara and Western Boundary.<gallery>
Some memes were made about the incident.<gallery>
File:Nara propaganda1.png|Nara propaganda.
File:Nara propaganda1.png|Nara propaganda
File:Prwb propaganda1.png|Western Boundary propaganda.
File:Nara propaganda2.jpg|Similar Naran propaganda
File:Nara propaganda2.jpg|Similar Naran propaganda
File:Prwb propaganda2.png|Summation of the whole situation (Westerner)
File:Prwb propaganda3.png|Western Boundary ironic "conspiracy board" propaganda
</gallery>
</gallery>

== References ==
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