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The Mount September Ice Road conflict is an ongoing dispute between [[NebulaSSR]]/[[minemaster933]]/[[KingOfTheMochas]] and [[SirTwiggles]]/[[Icyski]], which is notable for having involved both groups' home alliances - the [[Augustan Federation]] and [[UDF]]. ▼
[[File:Nebula vs the world.png|thumb|A standoff between the Boomer Iceroad and
▲The Mount September Ice Road conflict
== Background ==
In December of 2019 the [[War of The Coalition|Ransakistan Conflict]] began to develop with the obbybombing of [[Okashima]], [[Gensokyo]], and [[Icenia]]. When it became clear that much of the conflict would take place in and around [[Lusitania (CivClassic 2.0)|Lusitania]], a base of operations was set up within
This iceroad, dubbed the Boomer Iceroad, would be built under [[Mount Augusta (CivClassic)|land]] that would eventually become [[Mount September]]. This would result in the UDF being requested to move the iceroad to facilitate the construction of Mount September's vault - a request to which they acquiesced.
Outside of the
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* The UDF, widely considered part of [[World Police (CivClassic)|World Police]], has been the
* Icenia has had in place an unofficial program of sending "undesirable newfriends" (players receiving light sentences for petty raiding, building obscene structures, or generally not fitting within the schematic of Icenia) to Mount September. This has led, within the UDF, to Mount September receiving a reputation as a nation of trolls - some of which, in their eyes, are held in high regard within Mount September's
*An alt of [[Godomasta]] was wrongly pearled by [[Imperial Truidence]] forces. This ultimately led to his freeing after the blockbuster documentary on the incident was released.
== Dispute ==
On August 14th 2021,
On August 25th, Judge [[AllenY]] sided with [[minemaster933]], ordering [[SirTwiggles]] to pay 16 diamonds' reparations to [[minemaster933]]. [[SirTwiggles]] refused to comply - when [[minemaster933]] said that "you better pay", [[SirTwiggles]] replied, "make me". The resulting Septembrian pearl threat to [[SirTwiggles]] was then interpreted as "members of the UDF...being prevented from using [their] own ice road essentially", dragging the [[UDF]] into the dispute. Before this moment, UDF members had also found holes in the ice road near NebulaSSR's bunker that had been unauthorized.<br>▼
On August 26th, [[bgbba]] posted [https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/pccma8/get_off_my_lawn_zoomer_an_explanation_of/ an essay titled "Get Off My Lawn Zoomer: An Explanation of Yesterday's Incident by the Owner of the Iceroad in Question"] to [https://reddit.com/r/civclassics|r/civclassics]. In this 1700-word treatise, [[bgbba]] thoroughly condemned "ungrateful vermin willing to engage in that most degenerate of behaviors: escalationism" ([[NebulaSSR]]/[[minemaster933]]/[[KingOfTheMochas]]), presenting an extensive "Sequence of Events" focusing mainly on the Boomer Iceroad rather than [[NebulaSSR]]'s bunker. Expressing dismay over "illegal iceroad entrances and snitches...made on our iceroad" (an issue mentioned (as [[NebulaSSR]]'s bunker was connected to the iceroad illegally), but not focused on, in [[SirTwiggles]]'s trial) and alarm over a shovel attack on [[Icyski]] by [[NebulaSSR]] on the iceroad adjacent to the bunker (which postdated the inciting trial), and stating that the @everyone snitches in question had fields overlapping the iceroad (making their violators innocent of deliberate harassment), [[bgbba]] leveraged the Boomer Iceroad predating [[Mount September]] to argue that the latter had no business enforcing itself over the former (which, as [[bgbba]] was quick to point out, it already successfully had once before for its vault); [[bgbba]] compared [[KingOfTheMochas]]'s argument that the age of [[Mount September]] was "irrelevant" to the [[Holy Jaded Empire]]'s casus belli against [[SPQR]] (use of a rail which predated the former's claims), generalizing that "[[KingOfTheMochas]] and his supporters are now directly saying that [[NATO]] was right", and used this to justify the conclusion of his treatise: the declaration that "Nebula/Nebulandd/ShockandAwe, KingoftheMochas, and Minemaster are banned from entering the Boomer iceroad indefinitely". <br>▼
[[bgbba]]'s declaration was met with a divided response - a 65:35 upvote-to-downvote ratio, and several comments to the effect of [https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/pccma8/get_off_my_lawn_zoomer_an_explanation_of/hai1srk?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 "My dude you really need to dial down that ego of yours"]. [[Mount September]] especially was incensed, and [[squareblob]] posted [https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/pcend1/some_short_clarifications_to_bgs_post/ "Some short clarifications to Bg's post"], most importantly that [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614147625809346581/880633084561727498/2021-08-27-035814_603x307_scrot.png "the @everyone snitch in question is clearly outside the ice road"]. With the [[Augustan Federation]] and [[UDF]] now both thoroughly enmeshed in the dispute, and the rest of the world watching, both sides dug their heels in.<br>▼
▲[[File:Nebula vs the world.png|thumb|A standoff between the Boomer Iceroad and [[NebulaSSR]]'s bunker]]
As August 26th became August 27th one time zone at a time, tension grew. [[UDF]] and [[Augustan Federation]] supporters bickered in the comments of [[bgbba]]'s and [[squareblob]]'s Reddit posts, while [[Augustan Federation]] members - [[NebulaSSR]], [[minemaster933]], and [[KingOfTheMochas]] especially - hurriedly prepared for the worst. Tension peaked at approximately 10:40pm EDT August 26th, when several fully-armored players (most from the [[UDF]], with extras such as [[The__druid]]) appeared ready to attack and capture [[NebulaSSR]]'s bunker. Players across CivClassic were forced to ponder the threat of war.▼
But nobody made a move; the sides began to talk with one another, and became less serious in their opposition to one another. As [[thraldrek]] put it, "in true [[CivClassic 2.0|CivClassic]] fashion, people forgot why they were there for a second and just started screaming about how many people showed up to the event". The UDF players cleaned up their damage, and tensions receded.<br>▼
▲On August 25th, Judge [[AllenY]] sided with
▲On August 26th, [[bgbba]] posted [https://www.reddit.com/r/civclassics/comments/pccma8/get_off_my_lawn_zoomer_an_explanation_of/ an essay titled "Get Off My Lawn Zoomer: An Explanation of Yesterday's Incident by the Owner of the Iceroad in Question"] to [https://reddit.com/r/civclassics
▲Outside of the ice-road, there are other factors which exist which have caused a rise in tensions between Mount September and the UDF.
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▲As August 26th became August 27th one time zone at a time, tension grew.
▲* Minemaster933 has routinely committed petty crimes within Icenia dating back to the period in which he lived there-during which he broke into many houses within the city-eventually being kicked out of the nation for it, as well as unfounded claims by Kayla and Oko of Eddie Murphy that he had stolen diamond blocks from the Eddie Murphy vault.
▲But nobody made a move; the sides began to talk with one another, and became less serious in their opposition to one another. As [[thraldrek]] put it, "in true [[CivClassic 2.0|CivClassic]] fashion, people forgot why they were there for a second and just started screaming about how many people showed up to the event".
▲* The UDF, widely considered part of World Police, has been the routine target of accusations and disdain from Minemaster933 and other members of the Augustan Federation.
▲* Icenia has had in place an unofficial program of sending "undesirable newfriends" (players receiving light sentences for petty raiding, building obscene structures, or generally not fitting within the schematic of Icenia) to Mount September. This has led, within the UDF, to Mount September receiving a reputation as a nation of trolls-some of which, in their eyes, are held in high regard within Mount September's political scene such as Minemaster933, SambonusG, and others.
== Aftermath==
Such a close brush with the end of [[The Long Peace]] has had substantial effects on several nations and players on [[CivClassic 2.0|CivClassic]]. These are listed below:<br>
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- [[FKA_twink]] was "nominated by myself to discuss mending the harmed AF-UDF relations"<br>
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- [[Kaprediem]] resigned as President of [[Lambat (CivClassic 2.0)|Lambat]] and Resident of Mount September, citing exhaustion as a result of recent events<ref>Official statement of resignation by Kaprediem, outgoing President of Lambat : civclassics (reddit.com)</ref>.
In the aftermath of the event, all parties have resorted to a defensive stance on the matter. Yoahtl-UDF appear to be making efforts to continue defending their ice road ([[Boomer Ice Road]]), while the Augustan Federation is maintaining their original stance on the issue: one of maintaining respect for existing infrastructure while also defending it's right to sovereignty on the map. Yoahtl has since registered the ice road under Mount September property law and hold the right to defend it via the courts. They also maintain the right to defend their foreign infrastructure, which the Augustan Federation respects.
Individual tensions remain, however. Minemaster933 and SirTwiggles have made their positions known on discord, as has NebulaSSR.{{Citation needed}}
== References ==
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[[Category:Conflicts (CivClassic 2.0)]]
[[Category:Mount September]]
[[Category:Augustan Federation]]
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